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What it says on the tin.

Who are you to judge the servant of another? Before his own master he stands [approved] or falls [out of favor]. And he [who serves the Master—the Lord] will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

posted to religion by Rook, Necromancer of the Financial Services department (21 comments)


Harper, Devourer of the Poor,

Ah hah, you should learn to interpret bible verses using context.

Frankie, Secretary of the Homeless,

There's quoting and and no interpretation. So?

Josh, Real Estate Agent of the Satisfied,

If you take bible verses out of context they can be misapplied. That is how SATAN tried to use the bible when he tempted Jesus in the desert.

Frankie, Druid of Space,

Dude, do you really believe in demons? This is the 21st-Century.

Brett, Hostess of the Poor,

I know who murdered Chester Bennington . So does The Los Angeles Police Department but they can't get him because of his fame . Drop his name ? OK Calvin Broadus, called in The Rollin' 20's Crips pop pop right Calvin ?

Frankie, Druid of Space,

I do too. He did. He killed himself.

Frankie, Secretary of the Homeless,

The title is quite clear. It's about Christians fighting other Christians. Screw murderers who think they can get away because of their fame. Respect to the LAPD.

Frankie, Druid of Space,

The LAPD?!? Seriously? The most troubled police department in this country. Their brutality led to the formation of the Black Panthers. This seems to be a lesson we have to learn over and over. If you oppose people, a violent gang will aid them and be allowed to take over the community. This is what happened in Sicily and the Mafia.

But no one studies history anymore, so we are doomed to repeat it.

Frankie, Secretary of the Homeless,

Verse is only about two servants fighting each other about what their master has to say. So it's an internal sect thing.

Taylor, Paladin of the Unimaginable Terror,

Read the context, if you don't interpret contextually it has be bearing on me.

Max, Writer of Time,

What does this post about LA have to do with the bible, other than that murder is a major sin?

Max, Writer of Time,

The passage you are quoting is from Romans 14 dealing with debatable issues, things where some are more sensitive than others in conscience. It talks about mutual respect between those with more sensitively and those who feel more freedom to do some things that bother others. This passage has nothing to do with apostate churches. The bible says to mark and avoid them.

Now those who are too quick to condemn other Christians because they are breaking someone's rules, but the rules are not based on the bible, those kinds of churches need to repent and be told to do so.

Frankie, Secretary of the Homeless,

You probably need to repent about telling others to repent. Isn't that what the verse is about? God decides who needs to say sorry.

Taylor, Paladin of the Unimaginable Terror,

Why do MEN, the Apostles tell people to repent?

Max, Writer of Time,

No the verse is NOT about telling others to repent, it is ABOUT Christians being hard on other Christians for doing things that might bother their conscience, but are not clearly called sin in the bible. It might be things that might lead one person to sin, but not another. In these issues it IS up to each person to seek God about what they should do, but allow freedom to others to make different choices. With obvious sins, like murder, stealing, etc... it is FOR Christians to tell people to repent, ESPECIALLY other Christians doing such things. IT IS the job of spiritual Christians to say what the bible teaches on various issues. PERIOD!!!

Max, Writer of Time,

No I don't need to repent for telling others to repent. That is biblical. What kind of silly logic are you going by there? I will NOT repent of telling others to repent. I NEVER WILL. I don't NEED to. I REFUSE to. That also means I listen to others when others point out what I need to change. I WILL NEVER REPENT of telling churches with legalistic rules LIKE the PHARISEES to REPENT. PHARISEES NEED TO REPENT IN ALL CAPS. PERIOD AMEN PRAISE JESUS AMEN. JESUS called the PHARISEES WHITEWASHED TOMBS, and full of dead men's bones. GOD INCARNATE insulted the Pharisees and told them they had better repent or else. To people in other kinds of sins, He was more gentle with them, but Pharisees got harsh language, and they earned it.

That verse is NOT about obvious sins, it is about things that people often debate over that are NOT clear in the bible. There IS NO debate in telling someone repent of murder, or denying that Christ is the Messiah. In my mind there is ZERO debate that Christians can and should tell people to repent of the more obvious stuff, and they SHOULD tell other Christians to repent if they start denying the basic doctrines of the Christian faith in the bible.

Most of the time we shouldn't be harsh in doing so, except when dealing with modern day Pharisees, but we still should do it. One thing that helps with better doctrine and good biblical interpretation is using context for verses, chapters, and passages. Contextual interpretation is a major help in accurately understanding the bible. Many Christians need to wake up to this idea.

Blaine, CTO of Time,

Are you the one who decides which church is an apostate church? Jesus is the one who removes candlestands. Not you. You are not the judge of the churches. And the people who use religion to condemn others -- that's you -- you're the one who Jesus will call a viper. Harsh language? You earned it. Every single time you tell someone else to repent, know that you're being a Pharisee.

Blaine, CTO of Time,

Repent, boy.