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What it says on the tin.

In other words, God sins.

posted to religion by Aubrey, Merchant of the Satisfied (5 comments)


Nikki, Wench of Space,

Aha NOT SO....In Greek and Hebrew to repent means to change your mind. Repent can mean changing your mind over ANYTHING, not just sins. So if God changes His mind on something, it can be said that God repented. When interpreting the bible context is KEY. That passage has NOTHING to do with God sinning and repenting, or it would have said so. In fact it indicates that God REPENTED of judgement planned against them because the people REPENTED of their sins. That is the full context of Exodus 32:14. And the word "evil" in the King James English here, in Hebrew, means more of calamity or judgement, not an objective moral evil like a wicked person might do to someone.

Taylor, Druid of the Satisfied,

saiah 45:7 affirms that God creates darkness and disaster. It is not a creation of mankind, nor of fallen beings or Satan. The Hebrew word here that is translated as "disaster" could also mean "wickedness", "hurt", "affliction" or "adversity". God creates these things directly. Any argument that asserts that evil is a result of Human free will must first get over the fact that the Christian Bible states that God creates evil and disaster itself. Not only does this God create darkness and disaster, but it actively "does" them too. For example in Job 42:11 God is described as doing evil to Job as part of its test of Job even though Job is described as holy and blameless. In other words, the evil done by God on Job was not the result of Job's free will. Also, his children and animals are all slaughtered too, as collateral damage1. God doesn't merely create evil and suffering as possibilities, it actively chooses to do them itself.

Addison, Garçon of the Wildlands,

What I think, is that God has power over life and death because this isn't the end, the next life and next world is. In this life we all are subject to death because of sin, it has cursed our bodies to age and be subject to death. If someone doesn't die at 75 they will at 90 or around 100 or sometimes a little more. But that isn't the end anyway. EVERYONE dies unless the Lord returns during their lifetime. .

Addison, Garçon of the Wildlands,

What you forget is that God RIGHTLY has power over life and death. God tells us not to commit murder, but He RIGHTLY has power over life and death. Sometimes when someone dies before their time, IT IS INDEED a judgement of God. Other times it is not, the reason is mysterious to us. Either way God RIGHTLY has power over life and death. That is biblical doctrine.

Nikki, Wench of Space,

You say COULD mean evil. It doesn't mean that is what it MEANS IN THAT PASSAGE by the context. Your struggle to interpret the bible seems to be a struggle, unfortunately many Christians are worse at it than you, which explains a lot about many churches right now. The passages talking about God creating disaster have to do with judgement. God has every right to do that. Is 45 is talking about God's judgments. Interesting not about any little old sin, but about raging against God and replacing Him with idols. Idol worship really isn't the worship of statues even in the minds of most people who do or did that, it is about the worship of fallen angels, some very high ranking creatures formerly on the divine counsel of "thrones and powers, dominions", and some of demons, spirits of dead giants, which were hybrids between fallen angels and human women per Gen 6. In Gen 6 in Hebrew it says the Sons of God married the daughters of ADAM, not Cain, ADAM. Indicating humans and non-humans. The bible is full of cases of angels taking human form and eating, being physical, etc....Both Jude and the opening of Enoch call what these fallen angels did fornication, a sin so bad they were thrown into Tartarus, or an underworld prison so bad that no human being has ever been to that part of hell. Interesting that it is called fornication even though they MARRIED the women. That is because the original Greek word for fornication, porneia does not mean unmarried sex. The modern English dictionary has that word defined wrongly.