What it says on the tin.

The Catholics invented the trinity when they were Paganizing the teachings of Jesus. They were sneaking polytheism into the back door under the guise of the trinity. With the concept of the trinity, three Gods magically become one. Many details found in later writings, such as Matthew and Luke do not appear in the earliest manuscripts of Mark, including the phrase "Son of God" at Mark 1:1. The letters of Paul the Apostle, for example, do not mention a virgin birth of Christ. Paul describes Jesus as "born of a woman, born under the law" and "as to his human nature was a descendant of David" in the Epistle to the Galatians and the Epistle to the Romans.

Trinitarian heretics repent!!

posted to religion by Bobbie, Templar of Justice (10 comments)

Allison, Alchemist of Imagination,

Explain how in the Old Testament, there was Yahweh who talked about HIS Yahweh as a seperate person. In Hebrew Elohim is a generic word for god. CAN mean angels as well as God himself. But Yahweh means I AM and it is blasphemy for anyone other than God to call himself Yahweh. So here we have Yahweh (the Son) calling on Yahweh (the Father).

Stevie, Clown of the IT department,
  1. John 14:26 “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My [Jesus’] name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.”
  2. John 15:26 “When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .
Bobbie, Templar of Justice,


Allison, Alchemist of Imagination,

Doesn't matter that Paul doesn't mention the virgin birth. Plenty of other passages do. The bible is meant to be understood in context, not just individual verses, but entire chapters, entire books, entire parts of the bible, then the entire bible as a whole.

Allison, Alchemist of Imagination,

How then when Jesus was baptized, did God the Father say "this is my beloved Son", and the Holy Spirit was SENT by the Father or Jesus in various situations in the bible as a third person or entity?

Allison, Alchemist of Imagination,

The bible reveals three persons in one God. If it is fully inspired by God then it is true. Our concepts of polytheism vs. monotheism are kind of man made when we try to force our definitions on such things vs. what the bible teaches. The bible teaches there is a divine counsel of high level angels known as thrones, dominions, and powers that sit in meetings with God. So take it or leave it. It is more important to worship the true God vs. false gods or even ONE false god, rather than try to superimpose OUR definitions on the bible. This is why context is important. This is why the bible goes into detail on a lot of things, because words change definitions over time, and there are slight imperfections and nuances with translating languages. There is an evil trinity, there was Nimrod, Semiramis, and Tammuz from the tower of Babel. Many other ancient religion took these three and renamed them in their languages, such as Isis, Horus, and Seth and such. This is a demonic trinity that is the anti-thesis of God. Nimrod became a giant after probably after getting some fallen angel DNA into himself, and Semiramis probably had some strange things done to herself to make herself a hybrid too. She became the queen of heaven later in the Old Testament, and it is an abomination to worship her by what God says. Nothing to do with her being a female, and don't say anything about anti-feminism, it has everything to do with WHO she was and her evil choices in life, NOT her gender. She was both Nimrod's wife and mother, Tammuz was their sun. Tammuz was killed when a young man, and there was a case in the Old Testament where these women were weeping for Tammuz in some ritual, God called that an abomination too. By the way, the ritual was to weep for Tammuz for 40 days. You also gave up some little pleasure you enjoyed for the 40 days, and fasted too, doesn't THAT sound familiar. I have nothing to do with celebrating Lent. In fact I like the idea of pigging out on EXTRA meat during Lenten Fridays. Preferable in public restaurants where friends and I discuss our faith not obnoxiously loud, but not being worried if people hear us either. I am happy to let people know I am a Christian and believe in eating a giant steak during a Lenten Friday. Hypocrites go pig out on a big lobster or plate of shrimp that costs more than the steak dinner and call that a sacrifice for God. Hypocrites...I will enjoy my steak or a plate full of chicken.

Allison, Alchemist of Imagination,

Oh it should say Tammuz was their son...hmmmmm a false Christ in other words.

Dana, Hero of the Wildlands,

Are you a polytheist?

Allison, Alchemist of Imagination,

I believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three persons in the godhead, of the same substance, they always existed eternally. The angels, including the high ranking ones on the divine counsel, were created beings. Whether you want to call that monotheism or polytheism, I really don't care about the labels. It is what the bible teaches, therefore I believe it. But don't call it anti-Christian because of guilt by association or pagan. It is biblical, therefore I believe it. I don't believe in calling the Trinity polytheistic but if you attach that label, so be it. I will not deny the Trinity just so someone can be satisfied that I am a monotheist by THEIR definition of the word. Scripture teaches what scripture teaches. I will not change my beliefs to satisfy some man-made definitions of words. Another example is the word "fornication". It is a sin according to the bible. We should do it. I do NOT believe it means unmarried sex. The modern English dictionary says so. But the dictionary is not right when compared to the biblical definition of the word fornication. With how the word fornication is used in the bible, including the Hebrew equivalent in the Old Testament, it means all sexual sin including adultery, incest, bestiality, temple prostitution is a BIG definition of the word, also having sex with angels is BIG and seems to often get God's wrath fast unless there is quick repentance. I connect the sex with angels to temple prostitutes, I think often the temple prostitution was a re-enactment of Genesis 6 where the fallen angels took human wives and sired the giants. Incidentally, the book of Jude calls THIS a type of fornication so bad that God locked these particular angels in a deep dungeon so dark and so gloomy no human being has ever gone there, it is called Tartarus in the Greek New Testament.

The people involved in temple prostitution might not always have thought of Gen 6 in their acts, but the fallen angels probably inspired the practice to celebrate Gen 6 in their minds whenever people engaged in temple prostitution. The ancients DID often believe that they were having sex with a god or goddess when going with the temple prostitutes, and since pagan gods are fallen angels or demons (spirits of dead giants), this is a big abomination to God. In the Hebrew bible I found out that when God says not to prostitute, the Hebrew word used is specific ONLY to temple prostitution, NOT secular prostitution. I do believe only the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit should be worshiped. In the bible when people attempted to worship the holy angels in encounters, the angels refused to accept it and told them to worship God only.

Dakota, Student of Light,

Christianity is a convoluted little religion, isn't it? Christians will do all kinds of intellectual flip-flops to justify the whole mess. They need to just scrap whole portions of it including the OT.